Billy the Ex-Bethelite

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  Finding homes for the former 'bethelites' and 'special pioneers'

  by Esse quam videri in

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  since the liberal government has been elected in canada, it seems that people are looking to the future with a little more optimism and hope.

  it is only human nature that with change, we would think that the change would be for the better.

  the courts have ruled, in canada, that it is unconstitutional to deny the homeless the right to sleep in parks.

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  Maybe all those former bethelites and special pioneers could move to Canada!
  
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  New Watchtower Propaganda and hate speech destroying families (Feb 2016 WT)

  by Daniel1555 in

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  2. bible

  the following is a paragraph from the new february study watchtower article "learn from jehovah's loyal servants.".

  7 a conflict of loyalties may arise when a close relative is disfellowshipped.

  for example, a sister named anne [1] received a telephone call from her disfellowshipped mother.

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  The writers that come up with this stuff live in the isolated world of bethel. When living in a like-minded hive of WT drones, disfellowshipping sounds fine.

  But out in the real world where ordinary JWs have to work with and live around nonJWs, the disfellowshipping practice screams "cult!"

  The situation described in this article would easily be surrounded by nonJW family members, neighbors, friends, acquaintances, and onlookers. Although WT can issue the command that nobody ask any questions about the judicial meeting and that nobody talk to the dfd, that certainly doesn't apply to all those nonJWs. And when the mother in this WT story recounts what has transpired and shows what the daughter wrote in the letter to any nonJW, what are they going to think? "What a bitch of a daughter in a stupid church. Poor mother."
  

  I've talked to fellow students, coworkers, and my therapist about this JC and df practice. Of course they find it disgusting and lose any respect for JWs that they previously had. So the GB can keep ordering the sheeple to preach, but I know plenty of people that will never listen because they are aware of this unloving practice of this captive cult.
  
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  Awake Cover

  by Watchtower-Free in

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  Naked, wet, and rubbing your entire body with slippery soap--these are all the tools of Satan the Devil!

  Baptism is the only contact with water that true Christians need. It's the example that Jesus set. He got wet all over when he was baptized. Other than that there was hand and feet washing, but nothing in between. Later the bible records in detail that he used his superpowers to avoid contact with water by walking over top of the water instead of getting wet by swimming.
  
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  About 'Regular' Pioneers

  by Gayle in

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  2. friends

  now that district overseers have been deleted, now that bethelites are being devalued and increasingly dismissed, now that special pioneers are being deleted in u.s., and maybe elsewhere gradually.

  who would have ever thought?.

  yet, now what is the value to be a regular pioneer to the org?

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  the org. doesn't have to pay anything for them.

  And the org gets what they pay for.

  I suppose they create some extra hype in congregations and some may get others to go in service more.

  I knew plenty of pioneers that created hype and took bragging rights about their position, yet they had no "progressive" bible studies and rarely went out with the "average" publishers on the weekend. Their specialty was finding studies in the local jail and driving around during weekdays counting their time.

  Do RPs donate financially much to the org?

  Most that I knew didn't have much to donate financially and considered their time preaching as their donation.
  
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  Where has all the money gone?

  by gingerbread in

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  a number of years ago when i was still active, our service group was having a coffee break with the visiting circuit overseer.

  during the conversation he mentioned that the "society" was now being run like a business.

  being raised in the "truth" i thought that rather odd (and my eyes began to be opened!

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  OTWO: The problem would be self correcting if the printing corporation recognized the drying up of money for literature and reduced spending. But it could not reduce it fast enough.

  Agreed. And as WT reduced spending with cheaper publications, fewer magazines, and cutting the magazine pages in half, the donations from publishers would easily decrease into a downward spiral. With every cutting of cost that publishers could see, why would they keep donating the same?

  And with no defined price on the publications and DVDs, it's completely at the whim of the sheeple to donate or not donate for the stuff. And with their shift away from printing and toward online content, expenses will continue and income will continue the decline. Who pays for web content that it freely available? Who donates money to YouTube or Facebook?
  

  The old publication sales and profit model has completely collapsed.
  
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  Halloween / Birthday celebration

  by River Song in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  new to the board, first time posting a topic.

  i just wanted to say how refreshing and sometimes funny it has been lurking here.

  so much so that i decided to sign up to this message board.

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  Welcome!
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  CO Comes Up With A New Way To Be Judgemental...

  by JW_Rogue in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  at the latest co visit something very strange happened.

  during the meeting with the elders and servants he passed out a copy of a hypothetical publisher card and asked us what we could learn from it.

  upon receiving it i saw that the average hours were pretty good, it had return visits and quite a few bible studies.

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  It's like I always say...

  "In conclusion, it's a cult!"
  
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  Aus Bethel reducing numbers dramatically.

  by joey jojo in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  sorry if this is old news but just heard that there will only be about 75 people left at sydney bethel after layoffs.

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  Hail the the-o-cracy ever decreasing!
  Wondrous contraction is now taking place!
  
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  2015--10/19-and10/29-BOEs!

  by Atlantis in

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  2. bible

  disregard if already posted.. .. 2015, 10/19/boe.

  .. click the green download button.. re: service meeting part for week of december 21, 2015 .

  http://wwwb.fileflyer.com/view/vistoa4.

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  I think that one sentence needs some proofreading. This sounds more like it:
  

  However, it must be acknowledged that the Kingdom work is expanding invisibly at an accelerated pace and the Governing Body can only do so much with the invisibly present funds at their disposal.
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  Special Pioneer Couple Living at a Kingdom Hall In Miami FL, get the dreaded Letter

  by James Jack in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  just got a phone call from an older sister saying that a couple that got re-assigned from bethel 4 years ago to live at their kh apartment as special pioneers, just received a letter saying "as of january 2016, your special pioneer assignment will be discontinued".. they live in a south miami kh(snapper creek congregation).. this couple had only served in bethel for 15 years before they were sent out into the special pioneer work.

  they are now in their mid 50's and the sister said that they have to find part time jobs to support themselves.. the older sister (does not have a pc or internet), says that the couple are just devastated!

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  I'm so glad that I'm miles and years away from all the bethel and pioneer crap.

  There are probably plenty of my old "friends" that are suffering from all these cuts. I hope they wake up, get out, and get on with life like I was able to.